so he's a mortal creature....

best to deal with him now then?

Yes I believe so but finding him is the challenge. We do not want him to become an ancestor properly or he will be a whole other problem.

campture a minion of his who is draining power, do a rite on said minion to trace where this power is going. may reviel a clue to his location.

or beguile a minion and ask...

there are lots of ways

I'm not sure that ancestral beings are particularly receptive to being beguiled, I'm sure it takes a certain amount of strong mindedness to become an ancestral avatar. However, you are right in thinking that we need to deal with this as soon as possible. I fear that if the avatars take any more power we shall be too late.

Personally, i intend to carve the creature open and retrieve something of ours it has taken.

I second Snows idea of tracing were the power is going, we may even be able to perform a similar rite upon the swords allthough i would say to make sure we have significant protections ready in case it awakes the avatars.

There is ways of stopping a pattern from going were it wants too once it has been destroyed, we just need to make sure you have someone capable of doing so before it is destroyed.

Regardless, i dont think we will be able to get close to it without stopping Haldorian, the Gluttonous one may be powerfull but it is basically a manifestion of hunger, it wants to eat and devour everything in its path but it does not have tactics or the intellegence to be much of a threat.

Throw in Haldorian's combat prowess, his years of leading armies in battle and his unliving army it becomes a different matter.

Thank you Meepen-bump for addressing that question.

Hamish (& Others),
The only thing Mariam's loss cost us was her final communication with Dariu.

The guild is already in possesses a great deal of information on the Gluttonous One and Hildorian. Although I have held several meetings to spread this information I will make my notes available to the college members. This information will also include my revised briefings based upon what occurred over the Fayre and what we have learnt through conversations and investigations. I certainly would have a hesitation sharing too much in such an open manner but a few comments (on nothing the enemy would not already know):

The Gluttonous One's servants are respentations bearing the names of Hildorian's Late family but the evidence strongly-suggests that they are not actually the dead members themselves. It is important to also note that we encountered three of the swords whilst we are aware that there are six more in existence and I would wager a great-sum that the Blade-Avatars of the Stars and Sun will be far worse than that of the Sun. Eitherway any attempt to deal with or effect the swords will likely not occur without the knowledge of the Greater-Avatars infused within the blades. A question though, when the Avatars visited the Guild at Dyre-Turic did they bear the Gluttonous-One’s mark and where did they come from – I thought they appeared from the woods was I right?

If the swords follow true to the previous incarnations of the Gluttonous-One's generals then they are likely capable of summoning armies of unliving or ancestral natures.

Lorr is right that in all likelihood Hildorian controls any strategy behind the Gluttonous-Ones aims and also is possibly a lynch-pin for the power of the swords. However this is likely well known to the enemy also and he will not fall easily - it is worth noting now that there are suggestions that Hildorian is now being called the prophet of darkness, though this seems likely to be a function rather than a title.

I am not so sure that the Gluttonous-One seeks to return to being an Ancestor, the Avatars were very dismissive of the idea of It as an Ancestor and told me that though It attempted that path once it was no-longer of interest to It. It is worth baring in mind that the Gluttonous-One is now likely a create though not necessarily a 'mortal' one and if it is indeed a creature that it is not bound by some of the restrictions that Ancestral or similar beings find themselves up-against.

In knowledge.

-Othgir

May I add to Storn's words that I am happy that my last favour to Naziel was to ensure that his pattern was dedicated to his ancestor rather than being sent elsewhere which I believed was contemplated by those who had executed him.

Master Storn,

I apoligise if it seemed that way. Grimjaw was a faithful servant of the horned rat, and it's ah great loss to your order. He was just unlucky to have followed orders and get blamed for it. In my opinion the fault lay with Naziel, but the way the bears work is whoever kills a bear dies. It's a hard and fast way of life. I believe the other scathen were beguiled and said of each others involvement. Some were left alive due to them having no part, I believe he must have acted in the deed or he would not have been killed.

It is a sad time for our guild we lost many who were useful due to fate and a bad order.

As to Naziel's pattern ah believe the bears were saying if the spiral wanted a pattern it should take his.

I'm not privy to many decisions in the faction, this is just what I know. But I still have to act as a bear for that is what i was born. Even if their inner light gets clouded with vengeance.

Storn my offer to assist you in finding candidates still offers, men of true faith are hard to come by. He will be missed.

In light

Hamish

So the silver creatures who were asking for power because they were hungry were ancestral avatars for a gluttonous one?

And feeding them was not perhaps the most sensible idea?

There was one who was asking nicely. And it seemed a good idea at the time.

Silver with a mark on it's check like a w with a little star above.

Erica,
That is right - the mark with the W & the * is the mark of the Gluttonous-One.

These Avatars were satisfied to reach their ends through peaceful means - though were perfectly capable of violence when called to it. Possibly willingly sacrificing power to them had a greater effect than simply them taking it. In the old time of the Gluttonous One, It asked for a willing flow of sacrifices before great idols (not that it wasn't adverse to unwilling lives).

-Othgir